Do you have Facebook pages? They are a great money maker, I will share my experience, this is not a get rich overnight thing, this is long term.
I don't believe there's any get rich quick methods, there may be some but they will only last a week or so.
My stats over six months.
My best month earnings: $17,400
My worst month: $4500
This is with 50,000 fans. There's a few important factors, never try getting fans by buying fans, if you're that dumb just stop reading now, if you are that dumb, what's too good to be true most likely is too good to be true, you can buy Facebook fans, 50,000 for $4000, if you have the money don't waste your time.
You don't need to spend any money at all, in fact you don't even have to promote posts, or boost posts or anything like that, I have expenses, $10 a month for hosting my website. That's it, and my time.
Decide on a Canadian or American topic your interested in. I'm interested in politics, so I started a Politics page, it's only worth it if your fans are North American, because those ads pay 75% more than other countries.
Start posting simple memes like "this (politician) sucks! Like if you agree" on your page.
Create a simple Wordpress website, write 20 quality articles, unique articles, make sure your headlines and pictures are great because that's what your fans will see first, here's an example
"SHOCKING: (politician) has killed this California city..."
Then talk about how resteraunts are closing due to higher taxes or some shit like that, but make sure everything in your articles is facts and true, don't lie to your fans, own up to your headline but twist it a bit, only a bit. Link your facts back to sources such as CNN and other reputable news sources, this way you gain reputation fans with your fans.
Now contact ad networks such as Taboola, outbrain, or rev content, they pay North American clicks about $0.15 to $40 per click, my highest was $39. These are native ad companies and their ads look like regular articles on your site.
Now how to get Facebook likes for free you ask? This is very simple and easy, if your page is about politics, join a bunch of American politic groups, and simple share articles and memes from your page to as many groups as you can.
Here's how to post to a bunch of groups without getting banned and known as a spammer, again very simple, share content this group will want to hear and read, this is where reputation comes into play, if your articles are true and have reputable sources within the article, people will like and share it, if it's fake you will be known as a spammer.
When I did this, many of my articles and memes went viral because I posted what people want to hear, if you join a groups that's called something like "Bernie Sanders sucks" find flaws Bernie Sanders has and post them to the group.
My grammar is not the greatest and I have now hired proof readers and writers. But I started with no experience and have earned just over $50,000 in the last 6 months, and you can too, you just have to rely on long term and hard work, my Facebook page was started with 0 likes and $0 spent 8 months ago, don't expect to make money until you reach 10,000 likes, which should take around two months.
If you don't want to work hard, I have the answer for you as well, but I'll get into that later.
Like is said I have no education and as you can probably see from this post, I'm not that good at Outlining things, but I don't care because I've earned $50k, my suggestion for that is to either hire a writer or simply ask your Facebook fans to help you out on the content, their feedback will do you good.
Please don't PM me about this, I will reply on this thread when I can, just do your best, take this idea and try it.
Good luck
I want to believe. I truly want. But the whole "Don't PM me"+"I use a network I dont wanna reveal"(god knows why?)+"I make shit tons of money and no screenshot of it"+Your figures do not make sense makes me wonder.
So either you found a super high paying niche which is politic, or $17k of ad in a month seems almost improbable.
Considering 50% visit from your Fb post to Website, 10% CTR to this "secret network" ads + $.20 per click (and I'm taking high figures in each cases).
That's 850K visits to your site per month. For a political site, that's huge. Or you're famous in the game.
That's also 1.7m publication views on your Facebook pages. With 50K likes, that would mean 100% reach, 34 times in the month. I know Facebook, and I can tell you that's not possible if you're not paying. Or are you posting 100 articles per day ? because in that case, that's some expenses you didn't account.
care to explain in details your figures?
Saturday, 22 October 2016
Friday, 21 October 2016
My First Ever Over 10K Week
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I've been trying my hand on and off with online marketing for about 6 years. I've wracked up more failures than most people would ever care to admit. I had 3 successes. Kindle Books, I sold nearly 100,000 copies over a 4 year period (so, not a huge amount of money, and it's dwindled down to less than 100 dollars a month now).
My next success was in product selling on Amazon and shopify and creating popular facebook pages and I still do that, but, I pretty much have my fiance managing it, as well, it bored me, and I didn't feel like I was contributing. Finally, I started selling client and customer acquisition services for Brick and Mortar Financial Service businesses (real estate, financial advisors, loan officers--main business)--Other people that fall into my funnel I also help. I charge 1,600 monthly to create and manage their funnel and they pay for all of their marketing, I either charge it 500 weekly (auto transfer), or in a bulk some . I've just been enjoying the money, 10 to 13K monthly coming in before advertising. But, I decided to run my marketing full throttle with a direct mail campaign to a large amount of local businesses, advertising a free consult, and then facebook push (going up to 200 a day in advertising and putting out a couple of different ads). My total advertising cost was 2,785.33, of that I got 12 strategy sessions and sold 5 people into my funnel program. But, that's only 8k for the week. But, I had been running my marketing consistently for the last two months (all local facebook marketing), for a total cost of 6k (100 a day) and I was making my big push, so I did a series of broadcast messages just dumping information on them. Literally every step they could take to grow their business exponentially and I got an additional 12 people signed up to check out the program and I sold another 2 programs, but they were full programs (they wanted the full training system instead of the managed leads system which I sell for 2,500 dollars and work with them for 2 hours.) Bringing my total to 13K for the month. Now, clearly, since I've been producing 10 to 13K a month from my current advertising over the last two months, I'm not adding in the 6K in advertising cause it already paid for itself. So 2,785.33 and a 13k week... making my total 10,214.67, or the first time I've made more than 10K a week. So, just a message for everyone out there. Never give up. It took me six years to get consistently good. I'd spent over 30K on my marketing. Would have to give up for a time, get a real job and pay bills and then try again. But now, I'm generating leads, and transforming businesses and lives. Never give up. |
A Guide For Making Money Online And Being A Winne
I’ve been in this business for years, long enough to see people fail or succeed and draw my own conclusions as to why. I have friends who made fortunes in this business or those who basically flopped and played with IM like a hobby.
Everyone wants to be a winner, but what does that really take?
There’s plenty of methods and business models out there that can make you rich. So why aren’t people getting rich in this business? It’s not the methods, no, instead it’s how they are implemented. Today I am going to address why this happens and how you can avoid it.
Gurus Want To Teach You Their Methods And You Fail In Return
See folks, people have figured out you can make money by making money. It’s the icing on the cake for some. If I have a method that makes me a $100 a day and I sell you that blueprint for $1000 then I make money because I make money online, cool right?
Why would someone be willing to reveal such secrets?
Ah there’s the question skeptics ask, rightfully so. Mainly for two reasons. First, they fabricated the whole scenario and now bank on the lie OR they know you don’t have what it takes to make it happen and compete with them. That’s usually it for the guys who do make money.
Neil Patel is a nice guy right? I’m sure he is. However, can’t we all agree MOST of the people reading this article will not be able to implement his case studies because they don’t have a huge writing team pen in hand ready to rock a blog?
Of course we can! Neil could teach you exactly how to do what he does but unless you have financial backing you can forget about competing directly with him. It’s the ugly truth. So the context in which these guys display success is typically light hearted, when in reality its not easy! That’s why a lot of newcomers imitate and get disheartened.
So What Can You Do To Actually Make Money Online?
That depends on how much money you have. Private equity firms buy companies and make money online instantly, usually taking them into new directions. People with deep pockets saturate YouTube with cool car videos of success and build a fast brand.
But that’s not you is it? You’re probably working a 9-5 right now busting your ass wondering how you will make a transition into an online business model. That was most of us at one time. So why aren’t a lot of the guides for most of us?
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I want to get you through this guide as fast as possible so you can get to making money instead of reading. Below is a list of traits you need to follow when starting your first business online. It’s the nature of people who have success. A few I learned as I went while others I knew.
Find Information Sources & Cut The Distractions
Holy shit, this has to be a HUGE problem for new people. They get entranced into the Skype groups, commentary on social media, and have what I call “Information overload”. So they hop from idea to idea like a horny rabbit.
All these things are the pillars for losers or luxuries of those who have delegated work. When you first start out you don’t need any of it. Find your favorite information sources, lay out a plan, and shut down the distractions.
Buy A Whiteboard And Plan Out Your Daily Routine
If you want to make big money you need some big plans. Personally, the first step of implementation for me is writing a plan down and setting a date of delivery. Hey this stuff can get complex for a noob brain. Everything in this business is multi-threaded.
By that I mean you need social accounts, software, funnel building, email list, auto responders, content (Shit loads.) and all of it needs to work in an order that makes you money. How can you process all that without writing down some simple first steps? Do it!
The items I mentioned above is required for basically any business or method you do. If you can’t organize your plans and information, then you will not be able to build a business.
Tip: Trello is a nice way to organize projects, task, and when you grow, teams.
Put All Of Your Eggs Into One Basket Until You Can Buy More Baskets
One of my favorite business persons – a true pioneer – Andrew Carnegie one time said “The way to become rich is to put all your eggs in one basket and then watch that basket.” In many ways he is right, and I have found a slight modification that works exceedingly well for online ventures.
“Put all of your eggs into one basket until you can buy more baskets.”
That’s the best way I can describe how you should build your first business. See, starting out you have limited resources, not much time to spare, and too much noise in your brain. Most methods and businesses can make you big league dollars, but not unless you stick with one and perfect it.
Those same guys we talked about earlier know you will probably hit it hard and after 3 weeks of not making money give up and let them have the industry to themselves. They also know it’s going to take a bit of money to get going. That’s why when you’re the little guy you have to specialize.
What industries can make you big $$$ today?
Drop shipping is a goldmine when you learn how.
SaaS is a quick income producer if you know programming.
Affiliate marketing (Huge business model. I could go on and on.)
Service sector businesses (Content writing is a nice first one.)
The point is almost everything can make you money if you have the means and will to pursue it in its entirety. Sometimes we scoff at guys who think they will make big bucks in the adult industry, and sometimes they prove us wrong even in an extremely saturated industry with terrible monetization options. (Most guys are done in 5 min and don’t need HD subscriptions.)

I have friends from 2013 who still don’t make money online even though they always shared some great ideas with me over the years. The reason is because they didn’t fully commit to any of it and just entered a lot of it, thus resulting in nothing but mediocrity.
Pick one thing. Do it better than anyone else.
I always think back when my Dad was teaching me how to fish. A lot of naysayers would comment that the fish weren’t biting or there’s no fish in that water. He would always say Bullshit and even if it took everything in the tackle box he would find something that worked.
That’s business!
You have to try it all in one central pursuit before you move on. If it’s your aim to be a Social Media wiz and drive traffic into an offer from groups or tweets, then do it until it works for you. If the response isn’t what you wanted – try poking it differently.
PPC Vs. Organic – This Is The Only Thing You Need To Know Noob
Go organic first both in social media and search. I’m sure you have seen dozens of Udemy courses showing you that for a couple of dollars you are on the way to great pay per click traffic that will turn the whole system into a money machine. Insert bills, and more come out.
That is so far from the truth it pains me…
I have a friend, a really good guy, we met on this forum and in person. He is a social media giant. This guy will not mess with you unless you have a $10,000 budget and he offers his expertise to some of the biggest names in Affiliate marketing.
We were friends before I knew what he really did…
Anyway, he helped me tie up some loose connections I had with social media PPC. Still, it took me $1,500 in testing ad copies and funnels before I really started making money. Now remember, I had this guy as my right hand. Imagine if you were doing it blindly?
Big affiliates have TEAMS and they spend tens of thousands testing offers before they ever really pour the cash into them. A lot of people starting out will blow through what little savings they have, learn nothing, make no money, and go back to the 9-5 with their tails tightly tucked.
Organic is slower but it gives you a chance to test test test without pouring cash into a black hole. It also creates a recurring foundation that stabilizes your business before you leap into a more volatile market like PPC funnels where products are hot or not.
Go with Organic until you have some money to test with. Tools to automate social organic reach are very cheap. Most of them you can subscribe to for under $30 a month. Don’t get me wrong I love both organic and PPC. I know people making $XXX,XXX a week with Affiliate marketing.
Start Building Your List Today Or You Will Regret It
Whatever business model or industry you choose online will ultimately come down to one sole factor before you make money. Can you effectively drive niche quality traffic? Once you can do that it’s a cake walk from there. At that point you play with offers and proposals.
I use GetResponse currently because I love their intuitive auto responders…
Whatever niche, build a list. See as an affiliate if you directly send a customer to the product owner or network that person becomes their customer and immediately ceases being yours. Always work on collectively building an email list.
That way you create a recurring traffic source that’s essentially free once you attain the data. You can also use the data to create custom audiences when you start implementing PPC into your online business model. It’s the bones of a successful operation.
Never Think Of Yourself As Average
Some people will go their whole lives looking at winners and separating themselves from that pack psychologically. They create a divide. “Well he is >Insert Expert< so of course he makes money online.” Or “ I don’t have the startup funds that guys had so of course I can’t….”.
People who think of themselves as average will always be just that, average.
If you don’t place value in yourself as a product, then who will? I’m going to pull a quote from one of the great late philosophers Friedrich Nietzsche.
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When you put yourself into the class of the “Have not’s” and just idolize the “Haves” in business you already lose the greatness you could have shaped yourself into.
Now Let Me Leave You With This To Keep In Mind
There’s an energy to success. A momentum like you wouldn’t even imagine. If your smart with little victories, then they can manifest themselves into much larger ones. First you have to get the ball to rolling and once you do, it picks up speed as you go.
Finally, you can forget about luck or privilege. Those are the excuses of losers. A great Golfer by the name of Gary Player once said “The More I practice the luckier I get.”. How true! Never get jealous of success around you. Often times surrounding yourself with the successful will teach you many things.
So if you’re that Dad, Mom, young person, or even senior looking to make a difference in your life with this industry just know that when you apply this guide to the methods you find online you will drastically increase your chances of earning a great newfound freedom.
Have questions about getting going online or refining your business model? Maybe a personal experience you would like to add? Post it below!
Wednesday, 19 October 2016
Tired of the bullshit in internet marketing
Hey guys
Just a rant...
Is it just me, or is anyone else tired of seeing the WSO's and guru's that claim you can start earning $10k+ per month instantly overnight?
Or that they have some secret "traffic source that allows them to make "$XXX.XX per day".
Really dude? Your gonna sell me a 6 to 7-figure per year business model with all the details in a $17 WSO. Psssh..get out of here man.
There are no secret traffic sources or systems.
There is no shortcut.
There is no special program
...Only consistent hard work!
I have had very little success and a lot of failure in IM, but those failures have taught me a lot....
Looking from the outside, at successful people in this business, it seems like there is only ONE way to start earning massive amounts of income online in a short period of time.
By having a large/decent size marketing budget and consistently testing & tweaking new campaigns in proven traffic sources (like Google, Bing, Facebook).
And you keep analyzing your data, creating new campaigns, and keep investing money until you break even or become profitable on one or more of them. Once you find that winning campaign...you scale it.
And your niche/product might suck, and you might spend a lot of money on testing and get 0 sales. But that is just the risk you take in this game.
Entrepreneurship is hard work. I've realized that if you truly want to succeed online. BE PREPARED TO STRUGGLE!
End of rant��
That's actually where the problem starts, in my opinion. Here's why:
Doing anything to achieve something through any means is in itself a creative process; and
As how creative processes go -- Each process is unique to each individual in particular situations under certain conditions ...
Here's an analogy -- If I want to get the "best" bang for my buck with an McD meal, then in certain instances, I'd gobble everything up as fast as possible, while in some situations, I'd start with my drink then with a few fries before eating up half of the burger and going back to my drink, and in specific conditions, I'd just gobble up half of it, starting first with the fries and an apple pie, though I could in turn just decide to throw it all out and buy a more decent meal when I feel like it, but that doesn't mean those are the only things I could do, because when faced with other conditions that I can't think of at the moment, then I'd probably do something unique, but then again -- That's just me talking for myself ... 
Point is, there's most likely never a single way to do anything in life, more so in any business or in any investment venture, mainly because:
Conditions aren't always perfect.
Required resources don't stay the same.
Industry and market movement isn't linear.
Group dynamics significantly change constantly.
Human behavior is often unpredictable ...
So, I think what buyers need to understand is -- A pre-tested and pre-optimized system of doing business can't guarantee anything. Even an McD franchise won't be able to guarantee any level of success ...
And, if you aren't confident enough in leveraging your existing fiscal and non-fiscal resources like your time, skills, expertise and professional networks to build a sustainable plan of generating income for yourself, then I recommend staying out of the WSO section for now; and
Here's why -- You won't probably be able to identify the right information, tools and resources that could most likely complement and supplement the things that you intend to do so as to achieve what you want from your venture ..
Maybe Internet Marketing just isn't for you. The fact is most people fail because they don't belong doing it in the first place. Sure, there are a lot of bullshit WSOs, but I've bought many of them that were incredible and helped me make a lot of money.
Also, if you think there is only one way to make a lot of money online in a short time you are sadly mistaken. There are dozens, maybe hundreds of ways to legitimately make money from the Internet.
Problem is, they require hard work. That alone scares away 95% of the "make money online" crowd, because most of them are looking for some magic button they can press to make money with no work.
It took me 3 years before I made enough money from my online business to quit my "real" job. I also put in 12-16 hours a day almost every day. I did it by building a list. And I never bought any traffic, either. I buy traffic now, but back then I didn't have the money to spend on traffic.
I also never messed with any other niche but the "biz opp/make money online" niche because it's the easiest niche to break into and also the most profitable. Some marketers like to put it down and call it a fake niche or what have you. Personally, I could care less what anyone says or thinks about it because it stuffs my pockets full of cash every day.
I've heard it said that some people don't consider those in the MMO niche to not even be real marketers. That's cool. My bank account, sports car, and fully paid off condo say otherwise.
Meh (as I sometimes say). Let me put it controversial
ITS ALL YOUR FAULT.
now let me explain by asking you a question
What were you doing looking through all those WSOs? and reading all those gurus sales pages?
Looking for the golden bong
the one you could draw from and be rich.
Here's the living truth
NO ONE EVER SOLD ANYTHING THAT NO ONE WANTED TO BUY
Most of the posters here have created that market. Even in the good old days when there were some good things in there almost every "product" that would take some work or require some investment and actually had a shot at being something to give success - fell like a rock off the front page. Every once and again if I wanted to get a new idea that was solid i would just go look for the WSOs over the last few months that didn't do well and sure enough there was always the good stuff there.
No get rich quick sitting on your coach "done for you riches" so the masses
- WF buyers - passed it by like it had a disease.
"is this easy to do?"
"Sounds complicated"
"do you have any web business I can do without a web presence"
"have anyway i can automate this with a single click because I watch Matlock at four and can't miss divorce court at 5"
"Do we need to invest anything after this 5.99 WSO to get rich?"
People are always blaming the sellers but the buyers were always the ones that dictated what sells. Want to see it change - look in the mirror.
Sellers don't create and maintain marketplaces - buyers do.
wyvern2
"completely agree with you mate, that's why i never touch the wso offer...its all bullshit'
All BS? .. there are so many amazing offers in the WSO section right now October 16 2016 .. there always is you just have to use commonsense.
Mike Marin's video sales letter course costs 1 buck today .... just bought it this afternoon awesome stuff!!
Erica Stone "Sojourn" always produces top quality info for the Amazon affiliate SEO crowd, slow going and time consuming work, but it works for them and she is a god in that genre along with Tiffany Lambert.
I'm a big fan of DoWhatWorks in the WSO section .. her products are as close to a complete "work from home business" that I have ever seen but no online marketing course is complete for everyone.
Here is what I would do if I was new to IM and wanted to make money soon, but sustainable.
http://www.warriorforum.com/DoWhatWo...ve-income.html
Recurring income from promoting top notch products like Aweber to small business owners. You would be amazed how few small business owner even know what this is.
Hit the Shopify and Etsy businesses too .. they need help .. I talk to these dudes all the time
Money coming in every month and you'll learn a ton about how to set up websites, email marketing and how to run a business that produces real value to your customers
The one thing I don't like about her business model is the one, and only one way she gets customers, sending emails to small company's you find on Google.
There are so many ways to make money from this, be creative and mix and match.
You could use Facebook, Instagram, Pinterest, Quroa or Youtube
Here's a way to get customers from a WSO from 2012
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...le-system.html
That just might be the key for you, we all need to find our own unique way of doing things.
Reoccurring income may not last forever.
I was one of PartyPoker.com top affiliates from 2003 to 2006 when the internet poker thing took off in 2003 when Chris Moneymaker won the world series.
Then the Bush administration wiped that all out .. don't put all you eggs in one basket.
Finding what works for YOU is a big puzzle, but many pieces of that puzzle can be found in the WSO section.
I LOVE WSO's and thank you guys and ladies for giving me those pieces to MY puzzle... for peanuts
Really want HELP. as am out of my depth and dont know what to do about this BS!
I bought a one 2 one programme with inheritance money, spoke to this guy on his life web feed and he promised this would change my husband and my life. This guy had done it all and was a rags to riches multi millionaire and was going to teach me the steps to my own million dollar business. Long story short, didnt hear anything back after transferring $2997, then after many emails received a mailchimp general email.
Got really scared as $2997 is a lot of money to my family and I, and asked for a refund which his helpdesk and he himself promised was processed. Its now 2 months on and he avoids me like the plaque on Skype and doesnt answer any of my emails.
I dont know how to get to this guy, I dont have an address (although I am in Northern Ireland in the UK) - can you help guys, is there anything I can do to get my money back from this guy?
Yes he promise me the world on how he went from living on the streets to multi-millionaire and the lifestyle and freedom my family and I would love and strive to have! If anyone anywhere can advise or help I would be so really grateful. You can contact me at julie hart 5 at gmail dot com
Thanks
Just a rant...
Is it just me, or is anyone else tired of seeing the WSO's and guru's that claim you can start earning $10k+ per month instantly overnight?
Or that they have some secret "traffic source that allows them to make "$XXX.XX per day".
Really dude? Your gonna sell me a 6 to 7-figure per year business model with all the details in a $17 WSO. Psssh..get out of here man.
There are no secret traffic sources or systems.
There is no shortcut.
There is no special program
...Only consistent hard work!
I have had very little success and a lot of failure in IM, but those failures have taught me a lot....
Looking from the outside, at successful people in this business, it seems like there is only ONE way to start earning massive amounts of income online in a short period of time.
By having a large/decent size marketing budget and consistently testing & tweaking new campaigns in proven traffic sources (like Google, Bing, Facebook).
And you keep analyzing your data, creating new campaigns, and keep investing money until you break even or become profitable on one or more of them. Once you find that winning campaign...you scale it.
And your niche/product might suck, and you might spend a lot of money on testing and get 0 sales. But that is just the risk you take in this game.
Entrepreneurship is hard work. I've realized that if you truly want to succeed online. BE PREPARED TO STRUGGLE!
End of rant��
That's actually where the problem starts, in my opinion. Here's why:
Doing anything to achieve something through any means is in itself a creative process; and
As how creative processes go -- Each process is unique to each individual in particular situations under certain conditions ...
Here's an analogy -- If I want to get the "best" bang for my buck with an McD meal, then in certain instances, I'd gobble everything up as fast as possible, while in some situations, I'd start with my drink then with a few fries before eating up half of the burger and going back to my drink, and in specific conditions, I'd just gobble up half of it, starting first with the fries and an apple pie, though I could in turn just decide to throw it all out and buy a more decent meal when I feel like it, but that doesn't mean those are the only things I could do, because when faced with other conditions that I can't think of at the moment, then I'd probably do something unique, but then again -- That's just me talking for myself ... 
Point is, there's most likely never a single way to do anything in life, more so in any business or in any investment venture, mainly because:
Conditions aren't always perfect.
Required resources don't stay the same.
Industry and market movement isn't linear.
Group dynamics significantly change constantly.
Human behavior is often unpredictable ...
So, I think what buyers need to understand is -- A pre-tested and pre-optimized system of doing business can't guarantee anything. Even an McD franchise won't be able to guarantee any level of success ...
And, if you aren't confident enough in leveraging your existing fiscal and non-fiscal resources like your time, skills, expertise and professional networks to build a sustainable plan of generating income for yourself, then I recommend staying out of the WSO section for now; and
Here's why -- You won't probably be able to identify the right information, tools and resources that could most likely complement and supplement the things that you intend to do so as to achieve what you want from your venture ..
Maybe Internet Marketing just isn't for you. The fact is most people fail because they don't belong doing it in the first place. Sure, there are a lot of bullshit WSOs, but I've bought many of them that were incredible and helped me make a lot of money.
Also, if you think there is only one way to make a lot of money online in a short time you are sadly mistaken. There are dozens, maybe hundreds of ways to legitimately make money from the Internet.
Problem is, they require hard work. That alone scares away 95% of the "make money online" crowd, because most of them are looking for some magic button they can press to make money with no work.
It took me 3 years before I made enough money from my online business to quit my "real" job. I also put in 12-16 hours a day almost every day. I did it by building a list. And I never bought any traffic, either. I buy traffic now, but back then I didn't have the money to spend on traffic.
I also never messed with any other niche but the "biz opp/make money online" niche because it's the easiest niche to break into and also the most profitable. Some marketers like to put it down and call it a fake niche or what have you. Personally, I could care less what anyone says or thinks about it because it stuffs my pockets full of cash every day.
I've heard it said that some people don't consider those in the MMO niche to not even be real marketers. That's cool. My bank account, sports car, and fully paid off condo say otherwise.
Meh (as I sometimes say). Let me put it controversial
ITS ALL YOUR FAULT.
now let me explain by asking you a question
What were you doing looking through all those WSOs? and reading all those gurus sales pages?
Looking for the golden bong
the one you could draw from and be rich.
Here's the living truth
NO ONE EVER SOLD ANYTHING THAT NO ONE WANTED TO BUY
Most of the posters here have created that market. Even in the good old days when there were some good things in there almost every "product" that would take some work or require some investment and actually had a shot at being something to give success - fell like a rock off the front page. Every once and again if I wanted to get a new idea that was solid i would just go look for the WSOs over the last few months that didn't do well and sure enough there was always the good stuff there.
No get rich quick sitting on your coach "done for you riches" so the masses
- WF buyers - passed it by like it had a disease.
"is this easy to do?"
"Sounds complicated"
"do you have any web business I can do without a web presence"
"have anyway i can automate this with a single click because I watch Matlock at four and can't miss divorce court at 5"
"Do we need to invest anything after this 5.99 WSO to get rich?"
People are always blaming the sellers but the buyers were always the ones that dictated what sells. Want to see it change - look in the mirror.
Sellers don't create and maintain marketplaces - buyers do.
wyvern2
"completely agree with you mate, that's why i never touch the wso offer...its all bullshit'
All BS? .. there are so many amazing offers in the WSO section right now October 16 2016 .. there always is you just have to use commonsense.
Mike Marin's video sales letter course costs 1 buck today .... just bought it this afternoon awesome stuff!!
Erica Stone "Sojourn" always produces top quality info for the Amazon affiliate SEO crowd, slow going and time consuming work, but it works for them and she is a god in that genre along with Tiffany Lambert.
I'm a big fan of DoWhatWorks in the WSO section .. her products are as close to a complete "work from home business" that I have ever seen but no online marketing course is complete for everyone.
Here is what I would do if I was new to IM and wanted to make money soon, but sustainable.
http://www.warriorforum.com/DoWhatWo...ve-income.html
Recurring income from promoting top notch products like Aweber to small business owners. You would be amazed how few small business owner even know what this is.
Hit the Shopify and Etsy businesses too .. they need help .. I talk to these dudes all the time
Money coming in every month and you'll learn a ton about how to set up websites, email marketing and how to run a business that produces real value to your customers
The one thing I don't like about her business model is the one, and only one way she gets customers, sending emails to small company's you find on Google.
There are so many ways to make money from this, be creative and mix and match.
You could use Facebook, Instagram, Pinterest, Quroa or Youtube
Here's a way to get customers from a WSO from 2012
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...le-system.html
That just might be the key for you, we all need to find our own unique way of doing things.
Reoccurring income may not last forever.
I was one of PartyPoker.com top affiliates from 2003 to 2006 when the internet poker thing took off in 2003 when Chris Moneymaker won the world series.
Then the Bush administration wiped that all out .. don't put all you eggs in one basket.
Finding what works for YOU is a big puzzle, but many pieces of that puzzle can be found in the WSO section.
I LOVE WSO's and thank you guys and ladies for giving me those pieces to MY puzzle... for peanuts
Really want HELP. as am out of my depth and dont know what to do about this BS!

I bought a one 2 one programme with inheritance money, spoke to this guy on his life web feed and he promised this would change my husband and my life. This guy had done it all and was a rags to riches multi millionaire and was going to teach me the steps to my own million dollar business. Long story short, didnt hear anything back after transferring $2997, then after many emails received a mailchimp general email.
Got really scared as $2997 is a lot of money to my family and I, and asked for a refund which his helpdesk and he himself promised was processed. Its now 2 months on and he avoids me like the plaque on Skype and doesnt answer any of my emails.
I dont know how to get to this guy, I dont have an address (although I am in Northern Ireland in the UK) - can you help guys, is there anything I can do to get my money back from this guy?
Yes he promise me the world on how he went from living on the streets to multi-millionaire and the lifestyle and freedom my family and I would love and strive to have! If anyone anywhere can advise or help I would be so really grateful. You can contact me at julie hart 5 at gmail dot com
Thanks
Friday, 7 October 2016
WSO becoming shits
What is happening?
I went to the warrior WSO section and Warriorplus and wow.... Almost the 90% of the products are crap courses |
| and on the sales page they are not even telling the customers what they're selling to them... They're just promising them a lot of make money opportunity with no effort, with no work, and with no time, Just following a "Secret formula" Like... Step 1: Choose one product Step 2: Set it up to the secret machine Step 3: Go to sleep while your bank account get fill... |
1. Chosen one quality product from CB or Amazon or wherever or as an alternative created a quality product?
2. Then set up a 2-3 page website, with a squeeze page and autoresponder series?
3. Bought traffic (or had affiliates) which came while you slept and when you woke up you made tweaks to improve conversions?
That or similar works. It does for me and for a lot of other folks. Which part do you think doesn't work?
| I never purchased that piece of S.@*t But I'm 100% sure that after that purchased, there come 3 to 6 upsales with even worse products |
| Maybe videos that nobody can understand due to a horrible English, |
| trying to explain how to get traffic from social network or even worse.. |
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looooooooooooool!!
I got his physical Book "The Circle of profit" And I find it a good one. I went to the page where those 3 4 hours long seminars are, and I did not hit the play button because I don't think lasting 4 hours in one seminar is necessary, and they are 4 of them!! lol |
You sound exactly like the people you say are looking for the magic bullet. They, like you don't want to work hard - you know like watch the seminar they bought. Instead they'd rather come here and rant and rave about things they have no clue about.
| But we have to keep something in mind as marketers, seminars are there only for one main reason, and that reason is to sell!!! So he is not teaching he is selling. |
I'm not defending any of the shoddy/shady products or sellers out there. I'm defending common sense and fairness.
Once you've bought 90% of something you can throw out a statistic of 90% does this or that.
Once you actually sit through the seminars you can comment on their value or what is contained. But you can't comment on other folk's seminars until you've taken them.
Your reaction here, based on half truths and made up statistics, is no different than the actual things you are ranting about. If they are making stuff up and you are making stuff up, you both are full of it.
Mark
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